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Post by RangersRon on Dec 29, 2007 23:18:11 GMT -5
Great team, but holy shit do they get some amazing calls and their line just never holds.....I am not a Giant Fan but watching game and seeing some of the calls and non calls, I swear the NFL was looking for this to happen.
Props to Pats, but 16-0 comes with luck and alot of shitty calls going their way in my opinion!!!
Again Holy Shit! The refs had a seriously shitty game tonite!
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Post by AvsGM on Dec 29, 2007 23:55:22 GMT -5
Great team, but holy shit do they get some amazing calls and their line just never holds.....I am not a Giant Fan but watching game and seeing some of the calls and non calls, I swear the NFL was looking for this to happen. Props to Pats, but 16-0 comes with luck and alot of shitty calls going their way in my opinion!!! Again Holy Shit! The refs had a seriously shitty game tonite! Yeah, there were a couple of bad calls each way, but it's not the bad call itself, more of when the calls were made, like crucial 3rd and longs. But seriously, how many times can Welker and Watson just NOT be covered!?!? The most outrageous part of the game to me was when, after the replay of Wilfork trying to poke Jacobs in the eye, Gumbel amazingly said "I really don't think that was an intent to injure, more of an intent to irritate" (or annoy, I forget which). lol I'm sorry, but a face-wash in hockey is an intent to irritate/annoy, when you blatantly try and poke your finger in another persons eyeball , I don't think there can be any other result than injury lol
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Post by Hawks on Dec 30, 2007 1:48:18 GMT -5
I hate the patriots
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Post by nyrgm on Dec 30, 2007 4:04:33 GMT -5
Sorry i don't agree i've always have been a Pats fan growing up in Michigan Brady all the way moving to Huntington W.V. serving Randy Moss at the bar with along Chad Pennington knowing Moss personally with my favorite player (Brady) all the way the game was called in N.Y. favor agreeimg with me the 30 other people at my house they deserve everything they have learned when Payton broke the record Marino gave a speech where was Manning's to Brady of course not oh well i think New England is beatable and Jacksonville will be the team to do so when the beat Pittsburgh next week just my 2 cents worth
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Post by Philly on Dec 30, 2007 10:56:40 GMT -5
After that bullshit I saw againest the Ravens a few weeks ago, I lost interest. I hope someone sticks it to them like the Bears did in 86. That way the refs bad calls, won't play a factor.
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Post by RangersRon on Dec 30, 2007 14:54:33 GMT -5
Sorry i don't agree i've always have been a Pats fan growing up in Michigan Brady all the way moving to Huntington W.V. serving Randy Moss at the bar with along Chad Pennington knowing Moss personally with my favorite player (Brady) all the way the game was called in N.Y. favor agreeimg with me the 30 other people at my house they deserve everything they have learned when Payton broke the record Marino gave a speech where was Manning's to Brady of course not oh well i think New England is beatable and Jacksonville will be the team to do so when the beat Pittsburgh next week just my 2 cents worth I hate the Giants, so I look at game as an without interest in either, but there were a few calls that were plain and simple - horrible. I like Brady, being 6th round pick, he was great, Moss had great year but without a guy like Brady who is the best in the game, he would be what he has benn the last few years once people knew what to do to take him out of game. Also my opinion he could not shine Rice's shoes, yes he has record but in 16 game and not 12 like Rice did it...... Pats are beatable no doubt and will get beat. Isaw numerous holding penalties, one on the third and 20 which the guard arm extended across chest and held should guards and that happen numerous times when anyone got close. then the BS call early in game on third down which giants stopped and they call illegal contact, it was terrible. I guess if you are not going to call holding on all plays and call illegal contact ALL GAME, then let them make the plays.....
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Post by AvsGM on Dec 30, 2007 16:33:26 GMT -5
Also my opinion he could not shine Rice's shoes, yes he has record but in 16 game and not 12 like Rice did it....... I'm not a Pats or Moss fan by any means, but here's the problem with your statement.....1. It was a strike shortened season, and against scabs. 2. Rice did play many, many 16 game seasons (18 to be exact) and still never broke his own record! The closest he came was 17 TD's. The record is the record, doesn't matter. But with your line of thinking then I guess Maris' record shouldn't have counted either?
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Post by RangersRon on Dec 30, 2007 19:45:29 GMT -5
Also my opinion he could not shine Rice's shoes, yes he has record but in 16 game and not 12 like Rice did it....... I'm not a Pats or Moss fan by any means, but here's the problem with your statement.....1. It was a strike shortened season, and against scabs. 2. Rice did play many, many 16 game seasons (18 to be exact) and still never broke his own record! The closest he came was 17 TD's. The record is the record, doesn't matter. But with your line of thinking then I guess Maris' record shouldn't have counted either? How the hell does my statement or thinking say that, did not say that Moss record was not worth it, It was a great record and will stand for sometime, he probably would have broken alot more records had he not been such a ME player. Like I said he could not shine Rice's shoes over his career, some great numbers but the best thing to ever happen to his career is playing with a guy like Brady and a team like Pats. This year was his greatest and with a great team, otherwise he would have continued in his path of being a ME guy!!!! That's my damn opinion!!!!! Love watching when he comes to play, but over his career he did have tendency to take off a play here and there and he can not with that group up there in NE. My statement takes nothing away from record, my statement says he could not shine Rice's shoes, period!!!!! Again my opinion!!!!! LIke it or not, don't care! Always was a Rice fan, because he always came to play, every game!!!!! So not sure where you are coming from? ? LOL
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Post by AvsGM on Dec 30, 2007 20:01:29 GMT -5
some great numbers but the best thing to ever happen to his career is playing with a guy like Brady and a team like Pats. Um.....Joe Montana? lol, I'm not coming from anywhere. It's just amazing how many Patriot haters there are out there.
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Post by RangersRon on Dec 30, 2007 21:03:22 GMT -5
some great numbers but the best thing to ever happen to his career is playing with a guy like Brady and a team like Pats. Um.....Joe Montana? lol, I'm not coming from anywhere. It's just amazing how many Patriot haters there are out there. Don't forget Steve Young! Hey I am a Montana fan big time from Notre Dame through prop career. He made everyone great around him, which is why I always thought Brady was so much like him. I guess the Pats are the Yankees of the NFL, but I have been a Jets and 9er Fan since the 60s, so guess I don't like Pats but I like alot of their players, shit they have a a great griup of players on that team, especially those LBs, Great season and no one can take that away whether they hate them or not. Not a hater, just not a fan and front runner like so many people become with good teams. My teams both suck this season, combine and they could not beat Pats. LOL But Pats with their 16-0 record are not as un beatable as they were 4 weeks ago....
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Post by Hawks on Dec 31, 2007 9:36:19 GMT -5
I still really hate the Patriots
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Post by dallaseddie on Dec 31, 2007 15:16:18 GMT -5
Like NJ, I'm a 49er fan since I started watching football when I was young ('80s). I agree with his statement that Rice is better than Moss simple from Rice's work ethic, determination, and character. True, Moss is more athletically gifted than Rice, but Rice was a better route runner and more complete player, imo, than Moss. Also, I've never heard of Rice taking plays off or quitting on a team like Moss did with the Vikings and the Raiders. Rice did have good teams around him during his peak years, but he still played hard on bad teams as well (ie his later years with the Broncos and Seahawks). Moss is a good player, but I'd take Rice in his prime over Moss in his. Just my opinion.
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Post by RangersRon on Dec 31, 2007 15:26:34 GMT -5
T.O. or Moss? ? Heck the way Welker played this season, I probably take him, LOL... What a tough, hardnose litlle S.O.B!!!!! But really, probably Moss, because if anyone is all about ME it is T.O. plus T.O. has a heck of alot of drops and still takes plays off on a really good Dallas team, but back to Welker, T.O. does not have a guy like him, which probably takes alot of pressure off Moss. Oh yeah! Gavin really hates the Patriots!!!! Just wanted to remind everyone of this! LOLOLOL ;D
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