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Post by MontyBurns on Nov 2, 2011 13:56:42 GMT -5
ive had players suspended before. I think the most was 8 games, in last year
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Post by Hawks on Nov 3, 2011 15:31:49 GMT -5
LOL.
Another game day where the random number generator grants me a giant fail.
I enjoy how a guy I'm specifically trying to limit the ice time for...ties for the most played (21). Kinda stupid to make a lineup if the sim is just going to ignore your choices and play whoever it wants however long it wants.
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Post by AvsGM on Nov 3, 2011 16:35:11 GMT -5
LOL. Another game day where the random number generator grants me a giant fail. I enjoy how a guy I'm specifically trying to limit the ice time for...ties for the most played (21). Kinda stupid to make a lineup if the sim is just going to ignore your choices and play whoever it wants however long it wants. It probably has nothing to do with playing a better team As for your 21 minute guy, you had 3 of them so not sure who you're talking about. However... Meszaros - 2nd line, 1st PP, 2nd PK, 2nd 4 on 4, 1st PK 3 players Hamhuis - 2nd line, 1st PP, 2nd PK, 2nd PK 3 players Corvo - 3rd line, 4th line, 2nd PP, 2nd 4 on 4, 2nd PK 3 players Now I don't know about you, but if I'm trying to limit ice time then I certainly wouldn't have a player on 4+ different lines Not only that, but when you over use other players like Byfuglien and Corvo (both double shifting) on ES lines, when a specialty unit comes up and they're too tired then obviously your other guys will take their place and accumulate more ice time. You double shift Thornton, McDonald and Grabner. If that is the case then you don't need 12 forwards dressed and would be better off with 7 D-man, throwing in another body to give the other guys rest.
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Post by Hawks on Nov 3, 2011 16:44:28 GMT -5
LOL. Another game day where the random number generator grants me a giant fail. I enjoy how a guy I'm specifically trying to limit the ice time for...ties for the most played (21). Kinda stupid to make a lineup if the sim is just going to ignore your choices and play whoever it wants however long it wants. It probably has nothing to do with playing a better team As for your 21 minute guy, you had 3 of them so not sure who you're talking about. However... Meszaros - 2nd line, 1st PP, 2nd PK, 2nd 4 on 4, 1st PK 3 players Hamhuis - 2nd line, 1st PP, 2nd PK, 2nd PK 3 players Corvo - 3rd line, 4th line, 2nd PP, 2nd 4 on 4, 2nd PK 3 players Now I don't know about you, but if I'm trying to limit ice time then I certainly wouldn't have a player on 4+ different lines Not only that, but when you over use other players like Byfuglien and Corvo (both double shifting) on ES lines, when a specialty unit comes up and they're too tired then obviously your other guys will take their place and accumulate more ice time. You double shift Thornton, McDonald and Grabner. If that is the case then you don't need 12 forwards dressed and would be better off with 7 D-man, throwing in another body to give the other guys rest. Talking about Corvo. There was no 4-on-4 or 3 player PK time. So those lines don't matter for this particular situation. So that leaves, 3rd and 4th line, and PP. Corvo might be getting "double shifted" but its expected that two defenseman WILL do this. 3rd and 4th is hardly double shifting anyway. Buff is "double shifted" to the 1st, 4th, and also on the PP units, yet only played 20 minutes...with a higher DU rating. So how does Corvo get 21 minutes? I wasn't double shifting my forwards until recently, I tried it as a weird experiment against Calgary, and it worked there, just not twice I guess. Also, nobody is tired, none of my players are at 99 condition minus Thomas, who yet again gives up a ton of goals on LESS shots then the opposing goalie. Also, I don't get how Edmonton is a "better team"...I have better ratings, he's got like 1 more goal scorer than I do, but I trounce him in DF ratings, and I have a better goalie. Side by side number comparison, my team is better.
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Post by Philly on Nov 3, 2011 16:56:17 GMT -5
I find these discussions a learning experiance, as to the best ways to utilize your players for max effect. I think I've learned alot by watching the Rangers, get max effect, with so little. We all know or should know, that the best team doesn't always win. It would be a drag, if it was that easy.
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Post by Sharky on Nov 3, 2011 18:00:24 GMT -5
I'm not going to get into who's better because I have no idea, but Edmonton has a better offense.
Even though he "only" has one more goal scorer (quotations because an extra 30 goal scorer is a lot IMO), he also has a second line center in Roy (83 PA, 70 SC). You're second line center is Bryan Little (73 PA, 69 SC).
Little really brings the second lines potential offensive output down. Not only will Little not score a lot, but he may also reduce MacDonald's offense... who only has 6 points in 14 games with you.
I know Buf has an SC of 76, but he's a defenseman. Even if it was 80 I wouldn't count it as much... defenseman just don't score that often regardless of their SC.
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Post by Hawks on Nov 3, 2011 18:23:31 GMT -5
I'm not going to get into who's better because I have no idea, but Edmonton has a better offense. Even though he "only" has one more goal scorer (quotations because an extra 30 goal scorer is a lot IMO), he also has a second line center in Roy (83 PA, 70 SC). You're second line center is Bryan Little (73 PA, 69 SC). Little really brings the second lines potential offensive output down. Not only will Little not score a lot, but he may also reduce MacDonald's offense... who only has 6 points in 14 games with you. I know Buf has an SC of 76, but he's a defenseman. Even if it was 80 I wouldn't count it as much... defenseman just don't score that often regardless of their SC. The point with Little is a fair one. I've already submitted Jon a few position changes to see what I can do with that. I had Horton with McDonald forever, and Horton has a 74 scoring, why were them two not working at all? Buffs shooting a fair amount, he just isn't scoring. What really bugs me is Grabner. 3rd in the league in shots on goal, 4-10-14. Its like I have all this talent, and they just don't produce.
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Post by AvsGM on Nov 3, 2011 18:26:01 GMT -5
It's possible Corvo got extra time on the PK. Your 4 D for the PK are Lydman, White, Hamhuis and Meszaros. Those guys are also 4 out of your 5 "Extra Defensemen", the 5th being Corvo. So if one of those guys were too tired to take their shift and the other had just come off the ice then Corvo would probably come in.
I really wish we could switch to V2. There are so many more options to set your lines and manage ice time, as well the boxscores display player ice time for all units. However there are still too many complaints about the game engine, and we're in season anyhow.
Just because they're not tired now doesn't mean they didn't get tired during the game. That's why a player couldn't play on every line even if you set your lines as such.
I certainly wouldn't say "trounce". Since you both dress 12 and 6 here are your averages for DF...
Forwards: EDM DF - 72.58 CHI DF - 73.08
Defense: EDM DF - 75.6 CHI DF - 76.6
As for Thomas Vs. Miller...
TT___RM 95 SK 93 84 DU 92 66 ST 68 64 SZ 76 89 AG 94 89 RB 87 94 SC 93 95 HS 92 97 RT 94
That's pretty damn close! Thomas has +2 or +3 in several categories, but the +8DU, +12SZ and +5AG for Miller easily evens it up if not more.
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Post by Hawks on Nov 3, 2011 18:34:36 GMT -5
Hate whoever did the goalie ratings. The PK explanation is a good one. Have you used the V2 at all? Is it really THAT bad?
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Post by AvsGM on Nov 3, 2011 18:43:08 GMT -5
Have you used the V2 at all? Is it really THAT bad? Not to sim, no. I have messed around with it just to get a feel so I wouldn't be clueless when the time came. From everything I've read it's pretty bad right now though with 1st line players getting like 200+ points and all others like 30 without serious modifications to the ratings.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 3:41:39 GMT -5
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Post by Sharky on Nov 5, 2011 14:56:42 GMT -5
Wow, way to show up to an important divisional game against Edmonton.
Had 12 shots. Gave up 42 shots. Gave up 4 PPG.
Never had more than 5 shots in a period.
PK is below 80% now, better make some changes.
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Post by Sharky on Nov 6, 2011 3:06:37 GMT -5
Nice move moving MacDonald to C Gavin
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Post by Hawks on Nov 6, 2011 19:23:10 GMT -5
Nice move moving MacDonald to C Gavin Thanks! Seems to be working so far! Super important win today against a very good team that lucky for me was missing a top player. Was nice to finally see Kostitsyn on the scoresheet, he was kinda the odd-man out before, but he looks to have early chemistry with McDonald.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2011 12:05:30 GMT -5
Wow, way to show up to an important divisional game against Edmonton. Had 12 shots. Gave up 42 shots. Gave up 4 PPG. Never had more than 5 shots in a period. PK is below 80% now, better make some changes. Did you notice how the one goal was scored by three guys that used to be Oilers?
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