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Post by gmcanucks on Nov 14, 2012 16:58:35 GMT -5
I don't see any reason for change. I agree with Jon. If you play your guys ES, PP and PK, they should get tired. That's why the Penguins, for instance, don't play Crosby on the PK. There are very few guys who can play both and stay fresh.
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Post by MontyBurns on Nov 14, 2012 17:04:18 GMT -5
I do however lol see a bit of a problem with the farm goalies, bobrovsky loses 5 con pts everytime he plays. That is a sim error and will be fixed next update. I also think this is why we're seeing a lot more PPG players on the league leaders list. Here is the avg. ice-time for the top 5 points leaders last season..... Ryan - 19.4 Couture - 18.4 Kopitar - 20.8 Stamkos - 22 Crosby - 17.6 Currently 13 of the top 20 points leaders for forwards average more than 20mins PG. If the majority wants it left alone then so be it, I just don't think you should be able to play your players on every-single-unit and not expect them to get tired, just shouldn't happen. IMO most star players in the NHL are playing 20-22 min a game...
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Post by Philly on Nov 14, 2012 17:05:39 GMT -5
I just don't think you should be able to play your players on every-single-unit and not expect them to get tired, just shouldn't happen. I can only speak for myself, I don't make that a practice myself, and still lose a con pt here and there lol- I traded to get Gordon, so I could have 4 centers and take up the 4th line and PK slack. Staal is never used on my PK even though he has a 73 DF- Staal and Hanzal have en's in the 70's Hanzal never on my PP, so I have to keep an eye on them.
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Post by Hawks on Nov 14, 2012 17:08:09 GMT -5
I don't see any reason for change. I agree with Jon. If you play your guys ES, PP and PK, they should get tired. That's why the Penguins, for instance, don't play Crosby on the PK. There are very few guys who can play both and stay fresh. I agree as well, but it would appear that the settings we have now are doing that already. Teams who do use a top player basically everywhere are dealing with fatigue, while teams who have adjusted, aren't running into as often. I, for example, only run 1 player from my top 2 lines on my PK among Forwards. Thornton was on it, but was removed to cut his minutes. Its hard to have as much flexibility on defense, which is why they will often still be used in those situations...not much choice, you aren't going to use a 61 OV defenseman with 70 DF on your PK, lol.
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Post by Sharky on Nov 14, 2012 17:09:01 GMT -5
I don't think we should adjust the player fatigue settings. Like Gavin said, it is pretty standard for top pairing defensemen to average 24-25 minutes per game, and the current settings make that barely feasible. Likewise, I think 20-22 minutes for top forwards is normal.
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Post by gmcanucks on Nov 14, 2012 17:12:19 GMT -5
There were 29 forwards in the NHL who played more than 20 minutes a game last season. So if those guys are getting tired quickly, it could be a concern. Of course maybe those guys are less effective than they would be if they played 18 minutes a game.
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Post by CanesGM on Nov 14, 2012 18:07:24 GMT -5
I still think that some goalies get tired too fast, but you cant adjust for work horse type guys. O well
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 18:08:12 GMT -5
I think the fatigue ratings are good as they are but fine if Jon feels we need to adjust them.
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Post by AvsGM on Nov 14, 2012 18:55:10 GMT -5
Well, it seems I'm the only one who feels they should be adjusted lol, so everything will stay as is.
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Post by RangersRon on Nov 14, 2012 19:50:25 GMT -5
I agree with Jon that that top players should play double in top 4 lines , then special teams then first player for extra time on ice. If forward go over 20-21 minutes they should get tiered.
A great way to adjust minutes to allow top players to play on 5v5, 4v4 PK and PP is adjust slider for amount of time each line plays....may save wear and tear
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