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Post by Kraken Bobby on Sept 6, 2018 20:16:59 GMT -5
If this is a deal you would consider rejecting Im in the wrong league. Really if someone would consider it, well I did so I guess you are. I passed it but not bad enough to turn down for me as voter. I know if anyone wanted a earlier pick now or during draft and offered me straight up pick two years later, I would consider turning it down I would say no, I need more always. But that's just me. Find someone to take my squad and ill move along.
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Post by Hawks on Sept 6, 2018 20:17:38 GMT -5
2 years of prospect development and potential usability means nothing? K, all my picks from 2022 are available for all the same picks 2018. A pick is a pick right? It's all relative. Trading a 2018 1st today for a 2019 1st might make sense for someone looking for an extra lottery ball in the Hughes sweepstakes. Of course you don't want to move more than a year down not knowing much about 2020 prospects. Nhl gms defer picks all the time during drafts if they don't like anyone at the pick range. Boston pick is the 23rd pick in the round. The 2020 pick can easily be much higher. Also the odds of a player taken in the 3rd materializing into ratings, are probably less than 2%. To me this is piece of currency for another piece of currency deal. FYI - I drafted Roman Josi in the 3rd round. While I agree the likelihood isn't great, its still "something for nothing" IMO. Could/maybe/might isn't particularly convincing. Sure, my 2022 1st rounder could be 1st overall, how much you wanna bet if I trade it away that I'll make sure it won't be? Will both picks likely be around the same placement? Probably. But it still doesn't make any sense to set yourself back 2 years on a pick for literally nothing.
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Post by Hawks on Sept 6, 2018 20:20:14 GMT -5
Really if someone would consider it, well I did so I guess you are. I passed it but not bad enough to turn down for me as voter. I know if anyone wanted a earlier pick now or during draft and offered me straight up pick two years later, I would consider turning it down I would say no, I need more always. But that's just me. Find someone to take my squad and ill move along. This is the 2nd time you've gotten huffy about a trade that MIGHT be rejected (and only the 2nd time its even happened since you've been with us, so you're 2 for 2), so if you wanna leave, you are welcome to do so. Neither Jon nor I appreciate idle threats like that about leaving.
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Post by Kraken Bobby on Sept 6, 2018 20:23:38 GMT -5
Amazed at all the whining!!!!!!
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Post by Hawks on Sept 6, 2018 20:27:39 GMT -5
Amazed at all the whining!!!!!! Nobody is whining, its a discussion.
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Post by Kraken Bobby on Sept 6, 2018 20:29:04 GMT -5
your opinion
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Post by LeafsGM on Sept 6, 2018 20:30:01 GMT -5
Without quoting, I just disagree that it's nothing just because it's 2 years down. 3rd rounders are probably the most moved picks in the league. Of course I'm one of the guys that consistently moves them, but there's more than a few of us. Pick traders unite! Who wants all my picks
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Post by Kraken Bobby on Sept 6, 2018 20:34:00 GMT -5
Third round pick is a third round pick, year is irrelevant. 2 years of prospect development and potential usability means nothing? K, all my picks from 2022 are available for all the same picks 2018. A pick is a pick right? It means nothing if he never uses that pick to draft and uses it to acquire a player that helps him. He's tried to do that this year to no avail so pedals it for another pick that he has 2 years to move. Shrewd deal by a man who clearly likes to trade picks ( none in upcoming draft)
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Post by Hawks on Sept 6, 2018 20:38:41 GMT -5
2 years of prospect development and potential usability means nothing? K, all my picks from 2022 are available for all the same picks 2018. A pick is a pick right? It means nothing if he never uses that pick to draft and uses it to acquire a player that helps him. He's tried to do that this year to no avail so pedals it for another pick that he has 2 years to move. Shrewd deal by a man who clearly likes to trade picks ( none in upcoming draft) And would a 2018 pick give him more value in return than a 2020 pick? Yes, so he gained value didn't he? Did he gain value without giving up anything? Yes as well. It's like trading $20 in cash for $20 in pennies. You can spend the cash, nobody wants your pennies. The only whining I see is from you, that you wanna leave because you don't like the rules, so I guess opinions are broad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 20:43:52 GMT -5
2 years of prospect development and potential usability means nothing? K, all my picks from 2022 are available for all the same picks 2018. A pick is a pick right? It's all relative. Trading a 2018 1st today for a 2019 1st might make sense for someone looking for an extra lottery ball in the Hughes sweepstakes. Of course you don't want to move more than a year down not knowing much about 2020 prospects. Nhl gms defer picks all the time during drafts if they don't like anyone at the pick range. Boston pick is the 23rd pick in the round. The 2020 pick can easily be much higher. Also the odds of a player taken in the 3rd materializing into ratings, are probably less than 2%. To me this is piece of currency for another piece of currency deal. I understand that but there’s always a premium for picking in an earlier year. There is no premium here... so it’s like these two picks are exactly equal when as of today they’re not. I’m actually flabbergasted that this is a debate
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 20:51:09 GMT -5
Seriously my 22 picks are up for grabs for this year and next... please msg me
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Post by Kraken Bobby on Sept 6, 2018 21:02:21 GMT -5
It means nothing if he never uses that pick to draft and uses it to acquire a player that helps him. He's tried to do that this year to no avail so pedals it for another pick that he has 2 years to move. Shrewd deal by a man who clearly likes to trade picks ( none in upcoming draft) And would a 2018 pick give him more value in return than a 2020 pick? Yes, so he gained value didn't he? Did he gain value without giving up anything? Yes as well. It's like trading $20 in cash for $20 in pennies. You can spend the cash, nobody wants your pennies. The only whining I see is from you, that you wanna leave because you don't like the rules, so I guess opinions are broad. You clearly don't read your own posts enough
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 21:06:02 GMT -5
Lol how the fuck does this deal make sense.. somebody explain this to me
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 21:11:07 GMT -5
I don’t see how there is an argument that sooner is better, if you don’t like what you see now you get to try again in the future. You may lose development time on the player you would have gotten this year but there is just as much chance that the player drafted in 2020 would be much better.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 21:17:42 GMT -5
Lol nobody’s debating that but there’s a premium for moving up two years. This is fucking retarded I’m sorry
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