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Post by AvsGM on Jul 8, 2014 14:15:24 GMT -5
Would you prefer RFA compensation based on the players OV (as it currently is) or based on the salary offered to the player?
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Post by MontyBurns on Jul 8, 2014 15:27:08 GMT -5
Salary (cant vote via app)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 15:56:49 GMT -5
I vote salary too. Had an ass of a time logging in the computer to vote in the poll. Kept asking for my password and said it was wrong after I signed in using it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 15:57:13 GMT -5
I tried to vote in computer but not sure it went
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Post by Hawks on Jul 8, 2014 16:35:16 GMT -5
I'm fine on salary, but we have to adjust the RFA pay scale too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 17:31:01 GMT -5
Salary for sure. If a player has an off-season or injured, his OV will take a huge hit and making him eligible for a low bid.
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Post by gmcanucks on Jul 8, 2014 18:52:18 GMT -5
I'm fine on salary, but we have to adjust the RFA pay scale too. I don't understand why you have to adjust the RFA pay scale if we change the compensation, because the pay scale only gives you the minimum salary for a player in that OV category. If you adjust the pay scale up, it's going to result in a lot more $10,000,000 players if guys use their resign (7,500,000 x 1.35 = 10,125,000). To me it's just raising the average salary unnecessarily. Any RFA offer sheet that's going to have a chance to be successful is going to have to be above the minimum, anyway. Now I don't know the system as well as Gavin and Jon, and maybe they can explain why the Pay Scale and Compensation have to be linked to each other, but I don't see why.
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Post by Sharky on Jul 8, 2014 19:38:59 GMT -5
I'm fine on salary, but we have to adjust the RFA pay scale too. I see those two rules as independent. Why would we have to adjust the RFA pay scale?
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Post by Hawks on Jul 8, 2014 19:43:39 GMT -5
I'm fine on salary, but we have to adjust the RFA pay scale too. I don't understand why you have to adjust the RFA pay scale if we change the compensation, because the pay scale only gives you the minimum salary for a player in that OV category. If you adjust the pay scale up, it's going to result in a lot more $10,000,000 players if guys use their resign (7,500,000 x 1.35 = 10,125,000). To me it's just raising the average salary unnecessarily. Any RFA offer sheet that's going to have a chance to be successful is going to have to be above the minimum, anyway. Now I don't know the system as well as Gavin and Jon, and maybe they can explain why the Pay Scale and Compensation have to be linked to each other, but I don't see why. Its complicated to explain. Before, the comp and RFA payscale were not at all related, now they are basically linked because we'll be switching comp to be based on salary. So why are they now linked? Because the payscale now sets the minimum level of compensation. If your player is set to make say... 3 million dollars after being rerated a 70 OV player, his BASE compensation has now been set at around one 1st and one 2nd. The actual change is going to be a bit lower than my initial suggestion, but they are now connected and need to be treated as such.
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Post by Hawks on Jul 8, 2014 19:58:03 GMT -5
So this is the adjustment Jon and I are looking to make.
67 OV or less - 500,000 68 OV - 1 mil 69 OV - 2 mil 70 OV - 3 mil 71 OV - 4 mil 72 OV - 5 mil 73 OV - 6 mil 74+ OV - 6.5 mil
$500k - $999,999 = 3rd Round Pick within the next 2 years (current entry draft or '15) $1,000,000 - $1,999,999 = 2nd Round Pick within the next 2 years (current entry draft or '15) $2,000,000 - $3,999,999 = 1st AND 2nd Round Pick within the next 2 years (current entry draft or '15) - 1st round pick MUST be in the upcoming entry draft $4,000,000 - $6,499,999 = Two 1st round picks AND one 2nd Round Pick within the next 2 years (current entry draft or '15) - ONE 1st round pick MUST be in the upcoming entry draft 6,500,000 or higher = Three 1st round picks AND one 2nd Round Pick within the next 3 years (current entry draft or '15 or '16) - ONE 1st round pick MUST be in the upcoming entry draft
There will also be a 1,000,000 salary cap increase to both the pre and post 5-million increase rates. 58m and 63m.
TL;DR: Players 69 OV and lower have had a salary reduction. 70 OV is the same. 71 OV+ have all had a salary increase. This chart will also apply to activation contracts. 71+ OV is Two first and a 2nd, just as it was before, but there is now a new top tier for the BEST players in the game.
I'd also like to discuss removing this rule: "If you decide to match a bid from another team on one of your RFA players, then you will only be required to pay 90% of the bid, unless this amount would be less than your players previous salary."
Reason is because if a bid is made at 6.6m, and under the current rule is matched, the player would fall to 5,940,000, which is below the compensation tier the player was set to get from that bid. Doesn't make sense anymore, as the salary based system itself takes care of the reason why the rule was made...to slightly negate high offer sheets.
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Post by gmcanucks on Jul 8, 2014 20:24:47 GMT -5
Looks good to me, Gavin and makes a lot of sense (after I read it for the 5th time...lol). I agree that the 90% match rule should be removed as well.
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Post by Sharky on Jul 8, 2014 21:26:29 GMT -5
Sounds good to me.
So how about the rule regarding trading RFAs before free agency?
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Post by AvsGM on Jul 8, 2014 21:41:01 GMT -5
So how about the rule regarding trading RFAs before free agency? Which one exactly? There are a few that go along with trading RFAs (25-30) before FA opens.
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Post by Sharky on Jul 8, 2014 21:47:25 GMT -5
Well all of them. What are these rules supposed to accomplish?
1) Only allowed to trade one RFA. 2) Other team must use their free re-sign on them.
These are the only two rules I am aware of on the subject.
Also, just noticed that all unassigned players 62OV+ will be put on the UFA board for open bidding... so I take it there will only be silent bidding on players <62 OV?
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Post by AvsGM on Jul 8, 2014 22:33:38 GMT -5
Well all of them. What are these rules supposed to accomplish? 1) Only allowed to trade one RFA. 2) Other team must use their free re-sign on them. These are the only two rules I am aware of on the subject. I know their was a purpose when we put those in, it's hard to remember everything lol..... Gavin?? That rule has been in for a while now.
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