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Post by gmcanucks on Feb 5, 2015 18:47:41 GMT -5
Personally, I hate to see all the work I've put into this league over the past 5 years go up in smoke just when I'm getting competitive. And to be honest, I'm not sure if a redraft with the same 26 guys would make any difference, long term. It would be fun at the start but in five years wouldn't we be back in exactly the same position?
I kind of agree with Chris that a cap floor is probably a good idea. That would force the weaker clubs to do a little more work and ice teams that would generally be more competitive. It would force teams to be a little more active in the free agent and trade markets. It can't be good for a league when the playoff teams are determined by the All-Star break.
I also agree with some of what Ray and Gavin are saying about the league becoming too predictable. I'm been a proponent for a while of making injuries more realistic. In real life injuries are often the difference between winning and losing. They are a non-factor in our league.
In another league I'm in, morale is used and it has a big impact on team performance, Two things that have a detrimental effect on team morale are trades and injuries, so that would also serve to eliminate some of the crazy deals we see as well. In the last 8 years, the Stanley Cup champions finished 5th, 9th, 3rd, 1st, 1st, 3rd, 5th and 3rd overall in the regular season, so the best team doesn't always win.
I don't agree that more restrictions should be placed on trading. I don't think we should make more rules that prevent good GMs from building their teams as they see fit to protect weaker GMs. Just get rid of the weak GMs.
The fact that we do have some weaker GMs makes me think expansion isn't a great idea. Maybe we should try to get 26 dedicated GMs before we add more.
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Post by AvsGM on Feb 5, 2015 19:17:22 GMT -5
I like the idea of eventually expanding and adding two teams in the future or as part of a packaged idea, but to do it as things currently sit it wouldn't solve the issue. All it would do is add two teams to the bottom of the pile.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2015 20:40:55 GMT -5
Cap floor is a good idea in theory but considering that GM's/players don't have the same real world issues that make giving 4th line plugs 10 million to reach the cap floor I am not sure it works that well in our league.
Perhaps looking at switching the draft lottery to a system more similar to the NBA where it seems being last place isn't a guarantee at the top pick or even a top 3 pick per se. This doesn't fix everything but this year for example you have to be truly to have one of the coveted top 2 picks.
Maybe dropping UFA age could be a way to create more player movement as well and make it harder for the top teams to hoard top guys by giving them cheap re-sign deals versus potential 10 million deals in FA.
It could just be that McDavid/Eichel are skewing things but I think it is more than that. McDavid/Eichel was a nice perk but for me taking it down to the core had a lot to do with repeated 5-8th place finishes and 1st round losses. As Gavin has said with little to no upset potential having a mediocre team is death as you may get a 1st round upset one year but that's it so the league is really slanted towards teams building super teams or going for the future as mediocrity is death. Not sure how we can improve this without risking making it unfair to well built teams and I certainly don't want to see a bunch of 7th/8th seeds winning Cups each year.
I would be lukewarm to the idea of a re-draft. I think it would be exciting and loved going back and looking at our initial draft but tough to tell guys who have built a top team that they are back to square one. Easy for me to say re-draft when my team is basically stripped down to very little now anyways.
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Post by Hawks on Feb 6, 2015 1:50:26 GMT -5
I like the moral idea, thats something I think we should take a look at, anything that adds a bit of randomness is what we really need.
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Post by AvsGM on Feb 6, 2015 2:55:47 GMT -5
Randomness as far as what though? This season LA has wins over Min, NYR, Stl, Winnipeg has wins over Anh, NYR, NYI, Washington has wins over NYI, CGY, NJ.
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Post by Philly on Feb 6, 2015 7:52:40 GMT -5
Upsets happen in our playoffs, but you can't be lazy, you have to work on it to pull it off. Like to see more randomness in the injury department, to even things up more in the playoffs.
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Post by Sharky on Feb 6, 2015 11:22:41 GMT -5
Upsets are pretty rare in the playoffs IMO. I like the moral idea. Don't really see the benefit of a cap floor.
Hey if we really wanted to make things interesting, we would chip into a $10-20 each pot to go to the winner each year.
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Post by Hawks on Feb 6, 2015 11:23:15 GMT -5
Regular season wins aren't really the issue. Upsets don't happen in our playoffs, we've never had one. Basically, I just want all 16 teams who make the playoffs to have a legit CHANCE at the cup, currently I don't feel this is true at all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 11:39:46 GMT -5
So you're looking to spice things up a bit -- and maybe I can come at this from a different perspective since this is my first year.
I think a redraft would be interesting, but to wipe the history clean would be counter productive to what is great about this league -- the longevity of building a franchise over the long haul instead of the short term. I think that would change the direction of the league, and is that what everyone really wants?
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Post by Philly on Feb 6, 2015 11:43:33 GMT -5
Regular season wins aren't really the issue. Upsets don't happen in our playoffs, we've never had one. Basically, I just want all 16 teams who make the playoffs to have a legit CHANCE at the cup, currently I don't feel this is true at all. There have been a few upsets over the years, there really are not that many upsets in thje NHL either. IMO crank up injuries, problem solved. It would be more realistic. We have had GM's quit in the past because of key injuries though, so we cranked it down some for years. There also seemed to be a problem with farm team injuries constantly last time we cranked it up plus everyone bitched it was too high. Is there anyway to eliminate the fatigue factor on the farm. Nothing worse then wanting to bring up depth and see a 95 CD.
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Post by Hawks on Feb 6, 2015 11:57:56 GMT -5
I'd prefer to try Moral before we crank up injuries, specifically because nobody likes injuries that much, but SOME random element is something we desperately need.
Love a list of JGHL playoff 'upsets" since I'm pretty sure it'll only include the #2 team beating the #1 team, which doesn't really count.
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Post by Philly on Feb 6, 2015 12:02:04 GMT -5
You are never going to see an 8th seed upset a 1st seed in a sim league, because there is no human factor during the game. The only way to have a chance at a level playing field, in a sim league, is a higher rate of random injuries.
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Post by Hawks on Feb 6, 2015 12:14:54 GMT -5
Or a good moral system...
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Post by Sharky on Feb 6, 2015 12:18:27 GMT -5
Guess nobody wants to put any money on the line lol
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Post by AvsGM on Feb 6, 2015 14:57:07 GMT -5
Guess nobody wants to put any money on the line lol That's tough to ask of the teams that know they're not even going to make the playoffs. As far as morale goes, I'm not really sure how I feel about it. I read the manual about it and I'm still on the fence as Simon doesn't really get too detailed about it's workings..... "Morale is concept that is very hard to explain. It's impossible to list what effects it and what it does."If you'd like to read up on it then go to the address below, hit Ctrl+F, type in "morale" and view all the instances... sths.simont.info/ManualV2_En.php
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