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Post by Nordiques - Chris on Aug 3, 2018 9:23:32 GMT -5
Simple. Name a trade that has happened in this crazy NHL offseason and talk about if it would make sense/be approved here in the J.
I'll name a couple.
1. Hanifin & Lindholm for Hamilton, Ferland & Fox Much like the NHL it would have been highly debated but I still see it making some sense. JGHL trade reviewers probably would have insisted Fox be taken out. The fact that he probably wouldn't have signed in Calgary ir irrelevant here.
2. The recent Skinner for Pu + picks. If he were an upcoming UFA, maybe...otherwise, not a chance. (So don't offer me poo for Skinner this offseason : )
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Post by RedWings_Mike on Aug 3, 2018 12:12:52 GMT -5
The Mike Hoffman trades for me personally. No way I'm getting that low of value if I'm Ottawa. I've been awful trades before (Rip Jake Allen) but even I would like to think I could get more value for the Hoff.
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Post by LeafsGM on Aug 3, 2018 12:19:11 GMT -5
Simple. Name a trade that has happened in this crazy NHL offseason and talk about if it would make sense/be approved here in the J. I'll name a couple. 1. Hanifin & Lindholm for Hamilton, Ferland & Fox Much like the NHL it would have been highly debated but I still see it making some sense. JGHL trade reviewers probably would have insisted Fox be taken out. The fact that he probably wouldn't have signed in Calgary ir irrelevant here. 2. The recent Skinner for Pu + picks. If he were an upcoming, maybe...otherwise, not a chance. (So don't offer me poo for Skinner this offseason : ) 1. I think that's a wash if not a slight win for Calgary. Lindholm has untapped upside (even though the contract he signed was an over-payment) and Hanifin I haven't followed much, but is still young and seems like he could have more upside than Hamilton. I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on Hamilton on the defensive end, but then again have also heard Hanifin hasn't developed as expected. It's really all about how Hanifin fares in Calgary. This passes in the J. 2. This one's a real stinker (pun intended). Again, haven't been following the Canes much but don't they have like an abundance of centers? Why trade one of your best snipers for another C prospect? And really, you couldn't at least get a 1st? Buffalo made out like bandits here, adding a 30-35 goal winger, possibly 40 if he plays with Eichel. Honestly Buff could be a playoff team next season. This gets at least 20 posts on "opinions" thread, and ultimately gets rejected 16-8 in the J.
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Post by RedWings_Mike on Aug 3, 2018 15:20:00 GMT -5
Simple. Name a trade that has happened in this crazy NHL offseason and talk about if it would make sense/be approved here in the J. I'll name a couple. 1. Hanifin & Lindholm for Hamilton, Ferland & Fox Much like the NHL it would have been highly debated but I still see it making some sense. JGHL trade reviewers probably would have insisted Fox be taken out. The fact that he probably wouldn't have signed in Calgary ir irrelevant here. 2. The recent Skinner for Pu + picks. If he were an upcoming, maybe...otherwise, not a chance. (So don't offer me poo for Skinner this offseason : ) 1. I think that's a wash if not a slight win for Calgary. Lindholm has untapped upside (even though the contract he signed was an over-payment) and Hanifin I haven't followed much, but is still young and seems like he could have more upside than Hamilton. I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on Hamilton on the defensive end, but then again have also heard Hanifin hasn't developed as expected. It's really all about how Hanifin fares in Calgary. This passes in the J. 2. This one's a real stinker (pun intended). Again, haven't been following the Canes much but don't they have like an abundance of centers? Why trade one of your best snipers for another C prospect? And really, you couldn't at least get a 1st? Buffalo made out like bandits here, adding a 30-35 goal winger, possibly 40 if he plays with Eichel. Honestly Buff could be a playoff team next season. This gets at least 20 posts on "opinions" thread, and ultimately gets rejected 16-8 in the J. I agree, the trade for Carolina was really...pu. I'll see myself out.
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Post by Kraken Bobby on Aug 3, 2018 15:55:57 GMT -5
Canes got more for Skinner than the Leafs got for Hotdogs Kessel
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Post by Hawks on Aug 3, 2018 16:27:31 GMT -5
Simple. Name a trade that has happened in this crazy NHL offseason and talk about if it would make sense/be approved here in the J. I'll name a couple. 1. Hanifin & Lindholm for Hamilton, Ferland & Fox Much like the NHL it would have been highly debated but I still see it making some sense. JGHL trade reviewers probably would have insisted Fox be taken out. The fact that he probably wouldn't have signed in Calgary ir irrelevant here. 2. The recent Skinner for Pu + picks. If he were an upcoming, maybe...otherwise, not a chance. (So don't offer me poo for Skinner this offseason : ) lol. We literally pass 99% of trades without so much as a word spoken. I'm sure any of these (and nearly any other) would pass without a word spoken as well.
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Post by LeafsGM on Aug 3, 2018 16:41:12 GMT -5
Canes got more for Skinner than the Leafs got for Hotdogs Kessel Nah can't compare lol. At least we got Kasperi Kapanen and a 1st which was later turned into Fredrick Anderson. It also allowed us to bottom out for Matthews. Kapanen is solid, there's just not a lot of room for him on a suddenly stacked Leafs top 9. If he's playing on the 4th line this season, that could be one of the best 4th lines in the league. Not sure who Pu is other than an overage OHLer.
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Post by Kraken Bobby on Aug 3, 2018 17:04:59 GMT -5
lets not forget were still buy Phil hotdogs for life
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Post by RedWings_Mike on Aug 6, 2018 7:43:58 GMT -5
Simple. Name a trade that has happened in this crazy NHL offseason and talk about if it would make sense/be approved here in the J. I'll name a couple. 1. Hanifin & Lindholm for Hamilton, Ferland & Fox Much like the NHL it would have been highly debated but I still see it making some sense. JGHL trade reviewers probably would have insisted Fox be taken out. The fact that he probably wouldn't have signed in Calgary ir irrelevant here. 2. The recent Skinner for Pu + picks. If he were an upcoming, maybe...otherwise, not a chance. (So don't offer me poo for Skinner this offseason : ) lol. We literally pass 99% of trades without so much as a word spoken. I'm sure any of these (and nearly any other) would pass without a word spoken as well. I feel like the discussions around each trade has ramped up since I've started with this league.
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Post by Hawks on Aug 6, 2018 11:12:21 GMT -5
lol. We literally pass 99% of trades without so much as a word spoken. I'm sure any of these (and nearly any other) would pass without a word spoken as well. I feel like the discussions around each trade has ramped up since I've started with this league. Eh, its mostly the same, it just comes in spurts when something controversial happens, been that way since the beginning.
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Post by RedWings_Mike on Aug 6, 2018 14:09:53 GMT -5
I feel like the discussions around each trade has ramped up since I've started with this league. Eh, its mostly the same, it just comes in spurts when something controversial happens, been that way since the beginning. How do you suggest we change it if you don't agree with the current system? *editing this to say that I think the system isn't bad, but I believe there is a way that we can make it better.
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Post by Hawks on Aug 6, 2018 17:50:41 GMT -5
Eh, its mostly the same, it just comes in spurts when something controversial happens, been that way since the beginning. How do you suggest we change it if you don't agree with the current system? *editing this to say that I think the system isn't bad, but I believe there is a way that we can make it better. Not starting that discussion again, it never turns out well, lol. The problem is basically impartiality, we'd need people who don't own teams in our league to judge controversial trades, and that'll just never happen.
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Post by Nordiques - Chris on Aug 6, 2018 23:28:21 GMT -5
This thread was meant to bring about discussion of offseason moves in the NHL, not really to talk about our trade system but see why the wording in my OP made it sound like that. Just interested in thoughts on actual NHL trades. Like them? Hate them? Indifferent? Did they affect players on your own team do you think - positively or negatively?
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Post by MontyBurns on Aug 7, 2018 8:54:04 GMT -5
Cant believe how badly the sens have been raped this full season and last. Overpaid massively for Duchene, and then passed on Zadina and took Tkachuk. They also traded a 30 goal scorer for peanuts, literally. Got flipped moments later for a better return. ANd then to top it all off the "Avoided" arbitration with Mark Stone by giving him a 7 mil contract that makes him a UFA at the end of the year. Great plan guys. Now Duchene, Karlsson and Stone are all UFAs at the end of a year in which they dont have their 1st, so trading those guys could mean they traded Hughes plus for a 2 year rental of a guy who cant put up 60 points in a full season anymore.
Im a leafs guy but i love canadian hockey. This makes me so mad.
And Carolina... no idea what was up with that deal. Certainly wouldnt pass in the J. Pu is at best a decent B prospect. Skinner is a legit top 6 winger and every other year hes a top 3. What was i missing?
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Post by WHALERS_GM_AL on Aug 7, 2018 9:50:37 GMT -5
I thought that Carolina could have gotten more for Skinner; but kudos to Buffalo for getting it done.
With that trade and with O'Reiley trade, plus drafting Dahlin, Buffalo has gotten better, and should be competing for a WC spot this coming season.
The day that the Sens made Dorion their GM, marked the end/demise of that team; because now they had a GM that would not stand up to the Owner.
The best thing that can happen now would be for the team to be crash and burn, loose all 3 of Karlsson, Duchene and Stone for nothing, and Melnik being forced to sell.
I also think that with the lack of deals, for a #1 C, made by MB in Montreal, will eventually cost him his job this season. He seems more content of trading for wingers and having play C.
Not to surprised by the Calgary move; basically the GM going out to get 2 players that the coach had recently coached and had confidence in them. Good young players will only make them better.
I suspect that between now and the start of the season, that there will be a couple more deals made, probably even a shocker...
Just my 2 cents
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