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Post by MontyBurns on Jul 9, 2015 13:24:28 GMT -5
I don't think we should change the draft time or move the compensation picks to the next one. Things change over a year, and it's tough to predict the quality of a given draft. Everyone more or less knows about the draftees stocks in this year's draft going into our FA, so let's not complicate it by shifting it to next year's for the sake of more offer sheets. I feel we're once again beating a dead horse here.. This was about attempting to keep things moving, Eug. But Jon said he is going to run the Isles, if we don't get anyone. We trusted Corey and he burned us, listen learned. Never trust Coreys!
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Post by RangersRon on Jul 9, 2015 13:25:32 GMT -5
I don't think we should make changes on the fly! Changes should be implemented once season ends and before trading starts next season. Just hit pause button on FA until we get new Isles GM. IMHO! With all due respect to my good friend Ron, I don't think there would be any real issue with making the changes now. It is the off-season, after-all and if we can't make changes now, when could we make them. Not sure any trades that have been made wouldn't have been made if the rules were different. Before trade season opens because it could change who or what people may trade or trade for. Can anyone tell me how many offer sheets were made in NHL last year or even this year on RFAs
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Post by gmcanucks on Jul 9, 2015 13:29:59 GMT -5
This was about attempting to keep things moving, Eug. But Jon said he is going to run the Isles, if we don't get anyone. We trusted Corey and he burned us, listen learned. Never trust Coreys! Personally, I never trusted Haim or Feldman.
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Post by LeafsGM on Jul 9, 2015 13:40:51 GMT -5
Great point about NHL offer sheets, they never happen anymore. Why would we try to increase ours then? The days of offer sheets are over, GMs understand they bring animosity, drive up salaries, and can take a team back a few years. Let's not try to reinvent the wheel.
And yea no more Coreys!!!
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Post by Hawks on Jul 9, 2015 13:41:15 GMT -5
I don''t think that's too big of a factor. If you aren't going to match an offer, does it really matter if the picks are in 2015, 2016 and 2017 or 2016, 2017 and 2018. The unknown could actually make them more valuable. If the Bruins submit an offer sheet on one of my players, under the current rules, I know his pick this year is 24th overall, so maybe not so attractive. Next year's pick could be better. I would say a bigger factor is actually having the current year picks in hand and knowing where you are going to pick is a deterrent to team's making offer sheets in the first place. You can see what top prospect you are going to miss out on. I can see that there's pros and cons either way, but I think it would be worth it to try the change to see if it actually makes a difference and makes things more interesting. Really what do we have to lose? We don't have any offer sheets right now. So if we think it's something that we couldn't do this year, I think we should seriously consider the change for next season. Known is more valuable than Unknown. Sure, it COULD be higher…it could also be lower, and since they would likely taken a good player from you, its likely to be lower (as they have a stronger team and finish higher in the standings). Its not something we can just "try" that easily either, if someone did happen to make an offer sheet and it happened to be accepted, we'd be unable to ever "go back" due to the picks he got being one year ahead of normal, would also affect that teams ability to offer sheet again the following year if we wanted to go back. I simply don't see how this makes offer sheets better, I can easily see how it makes them worse. In order for an Offer Sheet to make any sense it has to be reasonable for the team taking the picks and the team signing the player. Both of those need to be there for it to happen. If you make every pick a total question mark on who it could be, you're reducing the likelihood of it being accepted by a quite a lot and therefore making the whole process less likely, not more likely. People simply will not waste time making offer sheets if they can't get the player, even if they have the compensation.
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Post by Sharky on Jul 9, 2015 13:47:16 GMT -5
I didn't know we were so close to FA! So that makes sense.
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Post by gmcanucks on Jul 9, 2015 13:48:29 GMT -5
I simply don't see how this makes offer sheets better, I can easily see how it makes them worse. In order for an Offer Sheet to make any sense it has to be reasonable for the team taking the picks and the team signing the player. Both of those need to be there for it to happen. If you make every pick a total question mark on who it could be, you're reducing the likelihood of it being accepted by a quite a lot and therefore making the whole process less likely, not more likely. People simply will not waste time making offer sheets if they can't get the player, even if they have the compensation. I don't see how it can be worse. We currently have no offer sheets.
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Post by Hawks on Jul 9, 2015 13:59:44 GMT -5
I simply don't see how this makes offer sheets better, I can easily see how it makes them worse. In order for an Offer Sheet to make any sense it has to be reasonable for the team taking the picks and the team signing the player. Both of those need to be there for it to happen. If you make every pick a total question mark on who it could be, you're reducing the likelihood of it being accepted by a quite a lot and therefore making the whole process less likely, not more likely. People simply will not waste time making offer sheets if they can't get the player, even if they have the compensation. I don't see how it can be worse. We currently have no offer sheets. Well, neither did the NHL. Personally for me, the comp is too high, way too high to even consider it unless that player is Crosby of Toews or something, but those guys would ALWAYS be matched. Does moving the picks back a year change that? Not really, its technically cheaper, but less likely to be accepted. The problem with comp as a whole is just that. Its too much for me to give up and too little for you to accept (not you personally, the general article "you"), and finding the sweet spot has always been difficult. Also, we've only had 1 off-season worth of the current comp system (based on salary as everyone wanted for so long)…little early to make alterations, who knows, maybe this year with the lack of UFAs on the market the RFA market will actually get a sheet or two…I doubt it, but I can't guess what the other 25 guys are thinking or planning.
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Post by AvsGM on Jul 10, 2015 19:03:25 GMT -5
Player drops are now closed.
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Post by AvsGM on Jul 15, 2015 19:07:31 GMT -5
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Post by AvsGM on Jul 16, 2015 15:17:36 GMT -5
Pleas denote a player as RFA if you are trading one so that I know to update FA pages!
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Post by Philly on Jul 16, 2015 15:30:33 GMT -5
Pleas denote a player as RFA if you are trading one so that I know to update FA pages! All 3 players in the Jersey - Vancouver deal are RFA
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Post by RangersRon on Jul 16, 2015 17:22:48 GMT -5
Pleas denote a player as RFA if you are trading one so that I know to update FA pages! Sorry Jon! My bad!
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Post by AvsGM on Jul 20, 2015 14:43:22 GMT -5
Please remember that players residing in your "Cap Hit" link in your clubhouse may NOT be bid on during free agency and/or claimed from unassigned.
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Post by AvsGM on Jul 30, 2015 21:01:44 GMT -5
Free agency is over! Other than a few minor mistakes I thought it went pretty smoothly. I'll now remove all unsigned players from teams, update e-mail to be sent out later.
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