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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 17:42:46 GMT -5
Where is the anger? This is turning into a conversation with my ex-wife!
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Post by Philly on Mar 21, 2014 17:48:36 GMT -5
Where is the anger? This is turning into a conversation with my ex-wife! LOL that was a good one, made me laugh, been there almost everyday. You guys outta know that the old man can smell trouble, been an earthling many many years. Did I tell you guys I'm going to be a great grandfather, do you guys have any great grandparents still alive, and your worried about some rejects.
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Post by Sharky on Mar 21, 2014 18:12:03 GMT -5
I wish I could have traded Parise and Suter for Seguin+ haha. But I'm happy with my deal still. Not sure why the Oilers/Preds trade has 4 rejects on it.
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Post by LeafsGM on Mar 21, 2014 18:15:24 GMT -5
I got no vested interest in this trade. Hell both teams aren't even in my conference. To me it's simple: If im Nashville, and in a retooling process where i need some younger pieces for my rated guys, do i do this deal? YES. If i'm Edm and are going for the cup, do i do this trade? YES.
Like i said in the past i feel like people are a little too trigger happy to reject major deals these days. Both Darren and James know full well what they're getting in this deal, we don't need to babysit them. Maybe someone is confused about the deal. Maybe someone doesnt realize Letang had a stroke and there were talks about him never playing again. Maybe someone doesn't realize that Tyler Seguin is a franchise player that's only 22 for crying out loud.
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Post by Philly on Mar 21, 2014 18:22:57 GMT -5
Why does that imply babysitting. BTW i never saw Bergeron on the Block.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 18:35:39 GMT -5
I didn't think this trade would have so much controversy. I want to have Benn and Seguin on my team, they're the new Kane and Towes. There's not many centers in the league at 22 that are as good as Seguin, except Tavares and Stamkos. That's why I made this deal.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 18:58:38 GMT -5
Why does that imply babysitting. BTW i never saw Bergeron on the Block. Why do players have to be on the block to make a deal? Seguin was never on the block. If I have a need, I look at other rosters and make offers if I see a fit. I'm not going to just post what I want and hope it comes to me. I go through each roster looking for a fit. Just because someone isn't on the block doesn't mean you can't ask about him if you want him
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Post by Philly on Mar 21, 2014 19:09:35 GMT -5
Oh, thankyou, I was wondering.
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Post by LeafsGM on Mar 21, 2014 19:25:17 GMT -5
Wanted Seguin so bad when we were talking Zetterberg. You guys realize we're talking about a generational talent here that goes 1st overall in every "redraft". My rule of thumb: if you're by far getting the best player in any deal, then you're not losing the deal. 12 years of Seguin+14 years of Scheifele>6 years of Bergeron+Letang with a long term question mark.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 19:36:51 GMT -5
Wanted Seguin so bad when we were talking Zetterberg. You guys realize we're talking about a generational talent here that goes 1st overall in every "redraft". My rule of thumb: if you're by far getting the best player in any deal, then you're not losing the deal. 12 years of Seguin+14 years of Scheifele>6 years of Bergeron+Letang with a long term question mark. Now I don't want to do the deal! I'm getting rooked!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 19:38:17 GMT -5
Wanted Seguin so bad when we were talking Zetterberg. You guys realize we're talking about a generational talent here that goes 1st overall in every "redraft". My rule of thumb: if you're by far getting the best player in any deal, then you're not losing the deal. 12 years of Seguin+14 years of Scheifele>6 years of Bergeron+Letang with a long term question mark. Now I don't want to do the deal! I'm getting rooked! Sarcasm font not working... It's hard to give him up. You tried to get him! This is my best chance to win and this puts me in position to hopefully do well in the playoffs
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Post by Philly on Mar 21, 2014 21:03:16 GMT -5
It's all my fault, I drafted Letang in the 3rd rd, and traded him, a 1st, and Madden. to Fla. for Roenick. It's interesting to look back, and see how many trades one has lost big time, and visa virsa.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 23:24:01 GMT -5
You know... maybe it's time to think about re-jigging how we assess trades. I think the reason that trade voting is in place is to ensure that no team is dealing in "bad faith" for the sake of the league's integrity. Obviously most of the GM's here make deals that they think is beneficial for their teams and you often hear the argument that two GM's "have been here long enough to know what they're doing with their team"..... got me thinking that maybe that's true.
This is just an idea that I'm throwing out there.... why dont we eliminate trade voting for the most part unless it involves a GM that's been here for a little while. For instance... maybe only deals that involve a GM that's been here for less than x amount of seasons needs to be vetted through the voting system. Any two GM's considered "veteran GM's": would simply have their deals passed just like that...
Any thoughts?>
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 23:26:31 GMT -5
You know... maybe it's time to think about re-jigging how we assess trades. I think the reason that trade voting is in place is to ensure that no team is dealing in "bad faith" for the sake of the league's integrity. Obviously most of the GM's here make deals that they think is beneficial for their teams and you often hear the argument that two GM's "have been here long enough to know what they're doing with their team"..... got me thinking that maybe that's true. This is just an idea that I'm throwing out there.... why dont we eliminate trade voting for the most part unless it involves a GM that's been here for a little while. For instance... maybe only deals that involve a GM that's been here for less than x amount of seasons needs to be vetted through the voting system. Any two GM's considered "veteran GM's": would simply have their deals passed just like that... Any thoughts?> 1000% agree
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 23:46:03 GMT -5
And maybe (like we've seen in the NBA)..... the Commissioner reserves the right to halt a trade based on what he believes to be "bad for the integrity of the league" and would be open to an appeal where both GM's would present their cases to the GM to be heard separately... sorry I'm just rhyming off the top of my head, but I think at least that would cover us from something being VERY lopsided.
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